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Hi!
Great questions! I'd like to encourage all the members to provide a reply! Let's make it more interactive. The opinions of all of you here together is better than my own alone.

Hopefully you'll start getting great answers that will help you in your practice. Let's all help lightyourworld22 :)
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So I love this technique and use it myself, but I'm struggling with how to introduce it in my dance classes, especially with younger students and recreational students. I have shorter classes and limited time to spend on stretching so I can't use a 20 minute program every week, especially if I want to take time for students to learn the stretches properly and retain them for work at home. Where do I begin if I can only do a few exercises a week, and gradually build on more? For instance, if we are working on splits, do I just start at the beginning of the program and teach the first few exercises? Do I choose one for each muscle group? What about turnout? Does it matter which exercises we do if we are only doing a few?
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lol, our first students will suff.. errrrmr ENJOY it more  8)

Let us know how it goes. You won't need luck, you have your knowledge + The method = best results ever.
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Wow. Thank you Daniel. I love your replies! Yes, I got the pic you posted of Vitality. thanks. It is good to know that not every stretch NEEDS to be done by everyone, and to use good judgement when working with individuals that need modification. I am getting nice results from the few people I have worked with (er, practiced on...). They have been great in letting me wade through some exercises, knowing that they are helping me learn while they get the benefit! Win-win!
I will keep you posted on my class. I am anxious to start and see what the response is....
thanks again!
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--Having trouble with Confidence (lol): I have tibial tortion which allows my lower legs to move a LOT while my feet and upper legs are stationary. I don't feel anything with this exercise and wonder if this is the issue or if the exercise is just a gentle one anyway. And--is the chest-to-floor just that in terms of target? Can you also tip the hips forward?
Hi Sue, I had not seen your post, I apologize.
You may skip this exercise, it's really for very tight muscles, extremely tight. You can adjust the position of the hips, flexing more or less, but really you should skip it and only use it on extremely tight muscles. There's a more powerful substitute, the position is different, I'm attaching a picture, let me know if you get it.
The leverage is, pushing a little on your knee to create adduction + internal rotation, and the target is walking your foot out a little each time. You must have good knees to do this, and this is used in cases were the person worked extremelly on the turnout, and there's a big imbalance, the stretch is felt deeply in cases like this (great ballet dancers hehe).

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--In Courage and Certainty, what if you have tight quads and/or just cannot grab your foot? Strap? I have been bringing my back knee in more, shortening the gap between the legs so I can grab. (upshot is that after doing Clarity and others, it is easier to grab!)
Exactly, if you can't grab your foot, then you are not there yet to do the exercise, and you should better do other adductor stretches, or work on a few sets of Clarity as preparation.
Not all stretches must be done by everyone, and it's perfect to use an assisted modality, someone else moving the persons' limbs, preferably using a contract relax approach, tensing 12 seconds on the leverage, and then a slow, controlled and small target.

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--For Esteem: similar question as above. If person cannot sit on their heel? I had someone sit on the ball of their foot but it was still a bit awkward..
They may do it standing, one leg straight on top of something at hip level. And quoting Paul when I asked a similar question, "you can do it on a headstand if you want". So the position can be changed, as long as it targets the same muscle and you use the same actions, the exercise is practically the same regardless of the position.

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--this may be just an error in the video: It lists Latissimus Dorsi when arms are overhead. Obviously this line is not supposed to be there...Please correct.
The latissimus dorsi is an extensor of the shoulder, so it is definitely stretched in flexion, no error here.

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Reverence: what if the person cannot reach floor? Yoga blocks? Any other modification?
Blocks should do it! Or New York Times Bestsellers. (I read so many of those!)

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Kindness: Why is the strap used for this when it is not used for Peace? Just wondering what the logic was on that. I can hold my leg no prob. I gues someone very tight would need strap in Ease, Peace, Kindness..., right?
Exactly. We are showing different variations, with strap, without strap, nothing special.

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Why does Harmony not mention any actual muscles such as achilles, gastrox, soleus as target muscles? "all the tissues of the back of leg" seems so vague for Paul who is so very detailed everywhere else. wondering....
Who knows what he was thinking when he wrote that... I guess he thought to specify as much is enough, since he says ALL tissues.

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Sorry for a MILLION questions. No rush at all. These are my musings as I was watching and studying:)
thanks so much!
Sue

You are welcome Sue! If you'd like to do something back, share some pictures and videos of your class!
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Daniel:
Could you reply on at least some of these questions? I would love to know more!
tx
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Daniel,
Thanks for the replies and feedback on my questions and comments regarding some inconsistencies. I hope that at some point someone can help Paul correct them because the course is so good otherwise--I hate to see the quality detract and confuse!
I have yet to receive my actual email certificate. I have emailed Reyna twice and she apologized and says it is coming but it has been almost two weeks now...???

On another note, I do some TRX Suspension Training as well as teach dance. I have tried some of the techniques on my "tighter" clients, and it is working well. I am anxious to teach more very tight people to grapple with positioning and various methods of modification. It is always a trick! I will keep you posted as I can.

I have the ELC video as well and hope to balance my students by incorporating both systems..time will tell!!
thanks!
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Daniel and everyone: I passed the test! However, I did miss more than I thought. I know that someone already asked if we could see our incorrect answers--any change in that? I would love to know where I made mistakes.
Congratulations Sue! You'll receive the certificate promptly.

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In terms of inconsistencies in the course:
--"Interment" is the title of "Discernment" on the video. It is also not really a word (I thought it was supposed to be InterNment--but that didn't make sense), so typo plus I think the exercise is called Discernment.
That's correct, the exercise is Discernment. We can't change it on the video.

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--I have to double check this, but in Certainty and Courage, the arm used seems to be different on Paul and the demonstrator gal. One uses same arm as leg flexed behind, one uses opposite arm. I have to go check all the videos and photos because I thought it was confusing between all the various demos and the written pdfs.
There are several variations for each exercise, the demos were taken from different programs, so that may be it. As long as the position targets the desired muscles then you can find many different ways of doing it.

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--Sureity was shown as "Shuri System" in the video. Big typo...confusing as you are learning for the first time. Had to reason it out.
Aha, as shuri is not a word at least not in English, so I'm sure the name is Surety.

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--Certainty was confused with  "Certitude" in Lateral bending either on the video and/or the pdf. Paul said it was a repeat from the Back Bending section, so def Certainty--but Certitude was spoken or written.
Yes, Paul updated the names for those exercises. If you'd like to tell me exactly at what time stamp the errors are some can be corrected, others we'll have to live with them, or we can add Errata notes on the pdfs.

Ok now the learning starts, when you start applying the techniques. Keep in mind this is only the stretching part, by no means the whole method. The strength techniques and the movement techniques are a must for flexibility improvements. You'll find tons of information and updates about the method on our blogs, and all the information is free. We have over 50 blogs.

Access to the forum is unlimited, so do share your future findings while teaching and training. Hardly anyone knows that, and we are all missing an important part of the learning process.
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Wow. This was an interesting (and long) discussion on class sequencing! I got a lot out of it.
I am planning right now to formulate a class for end of August, incorporating KST into what I call "Strength and Flexibility Workshop" for college students. In this course I have the time to work slowly over a semester (15 weeks) to try and balance gaining flexibility with general strength. I have the ELC video and having recently (today) passed the certification exam, I plan to study that video as well.
I have questions that I came across while studying and trying the exercises, and I know you have answers!! Here goes:

--Having trouble with Confidence (lol): I have tibial tortion which allows my lower legs to move a LOT while my feet and upper legs are stationary. I don't feel anything with this exercise and wonder if this is the issue or if the exercise is just a gentle one anyway. And--is the chest-to-floor just that in terms of target? Can you also tip the hips forward?

--In Courage and Certainty, what if you have tight quads and/or just cannot grab your foot? Strap? I have been bringing my back knee in more, shortening the gap between the legs so I can grab. (upshot is that after doing Clarity and others, it is easier to grab!)

--For Esteem: similar question as above. If person cannot sit on their heel? I had someone sit on the ball of their foot but it was still a bit awkward..

--this may be just an error in the video: It lists Latissimus Dorsi when arms are overhead. Obviously this line is not supposed to be there...Please correct.

Reverence: what if the person cannot reach floor? Yoga blocks? Any other modification?

Kindness: Why is the strap used for this when it is not used for Peace? Just wondering what the logic was on that. I can hold my leg no prob. I gues someone very tight would need strap in Ease, Peace, Kindness..., right?

Why does Harmony not mention any actual muscles such as achilles, gastrox, soleus as target muscles? "all the tissues of the back of leg" seems so vague for Paul who is so very detailed everywhere else. wondering....

Sorry for a MILLION questions. No rush at all. These are my musings as I was watching and studying:)
thanks so much!
Sue
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Daniel and everyone: I passed the test! However, I did miss more than I thought. I know that someone already asked if we could see our incorrect answers--any change in that? I would love to know where I made mistakes.

In terms of inconsistencies in the course:
--"Interment" is the title of "Discernment" on the video. It is also not really a word (I thought it was supposed to be InterNment--but that didn't make sense), so typo plus I think the exercise is called Discernment.
--I have to double check this, but in Certainty and Courage, the arm used seems to be different on Paul and the demonstrator gal. One uses same arm as leg flexed behind, one uses opposite arm. I have to go check all the videos and photos because I thought it was confusing between all the various demos and the written pdfs.
--Sureity was shown as "Shuri System" in the video. Big typo...confusing as you are learning for the first time. Had to reason it out.
--Certainty was confused with  "Certitude" in Lateral bending either on the video and/or the pdf. Paul said it was a repeat from the Back Bending section, so def Certainty--but Certitude was spoken or written.

I think that is it for now. If I find anything more or clarify the above, I will write again, Thanks for being an excellent moderator!!
Sue

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