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General Category => Kinesiological Stretching Technique Seminar Discussion => Topic started by: lijue@berkeley.edu on September 12, 2017, 07:07:37 pm

Title: VERY tight students?
Post by: lijue@berkeley.edu on September 12, 2017, 07:07:37 pm
Hi Daniel,
Well, as a newly certified KST instructor, I just taught my first class to 25 college students! It went very well I must say. I took them through all 12 of the forward bending exercises, which took a little over an hour with questions and giving help, etc. I had them stand and roll down the spine in parallel position to assess their "stone cold" flexibility at 10am on a Monday, Lol! I had them really think and feel their body in this stretch and try to remember/"measure" where they were at the beginning of class. Then we did the exercises and went into the same forward folding position to see if they felt and made measurable progress. They DID, and were very enthusiastic. I asked them to also see if they kept the newly found flexibility--so I will see next week!
Question:
I have two men in the class who are tall/slightly stocky, and VERY tight. One also has trouble distinguishing one thing from another (ie, goes the wrong way, does not see detail). I am particulary wondering how to approach Esteem. The half straddle position had a few folks uncomfortable: some with sitting on their one ankle (even with mat folded double/triple), and also just trying to fold forward at all from the start position. (head goes down but cannot move from hips at all).
Can you provide any suggestions? Sit on yoga block somehow? a low stool (which I have), skip it altogether?

Same guy also has trouble reaching his ankle/foot for Appeal and Harmony. Suggestions?
thanks.
Sue
Title: Re: VERY tight students?
Post by: lijue@berkeley.edu on October 09, 2017, 01:03:07 pm
Has anyone read this that can reply or help out at all? Still working with these same students.
tx
Title: Re: VERY tight students?
Post by: Daniel Tkach on October 20, 2017, 01:22:49 pm
Hi Daniel,
Well, as a newly certified KST instructor, I just taught my first class to 25 college students! It went very well I must say. I took them through all 12 of the forward bending exercises, which took a little over an hour with questions and giving help, etc. I had them stand and roll down the spine in parallel position to assess their "stone cold" flexibility at 10am on a Monday, Lol! I had them really think and feel their body in this stretch and try to remember/"measure" where they were at the beginning of class. Then we did the exercises and went into the same forward folding position to see if they felt and made measurable progress. They DID, and were very enthusiastic. I asked them to also see if they kept the newly found flexibility--so I will see next week!
Question:
I have two men in the class who are tall/slightly stocky, and VERY tight. One also has trouble distinguishing one thing from another (ie, goes the wrong way, does not see detail). I am particulary wondering how to approach Esteem. The half straddle position had a few folks uncomfortable: some with sitting on their one ankle (even with mat folded double/triple), and also just trying to fold forward at all from the start position. (head goes down but cannot move from hips at all).
Can you provide any suggestions? Sit on yoga block somehow? a low stool (which I have), skip it altogether?

Same guy also has trouble reaching his ankle/foot for Appeal and Harmony. Suggestions?
thanks.
Sue

Hi Sue! The question about keeping your progress, if they only stretch they will lose most of it. They have to add RI, MHT and ELC. I don't recall if it was to you whom I answered what each were, but detailed explanations are here in the forum.

For people who have trouble, you'll have to spend more time explaining to them how to move, teach them how to move relatively to some other part of the body for example. And teach them what flexion, extension, abduction, adduction, rotations are, if they know the "building blocks" of movement then they'll be able to understand better what they should be doing. Much like when one learns the sounds of a language before trying to speak it putting together many sounds one after the other.

If a position is stuck, you have to use a strength modality, with reciprocal inhibition for 5 seconds at a time, or, with contract relaxed techniques for 12 seconds at least, or and "multiple leverages per target" modality. As I commented on my other answer, some muscles won't release by regular modalities.

If you'd like to learn a few dozen exercises on how to apply different modalities let me know and I can get you 50% off for the other certification course.

Cheers!
Title: Re: VERY tight students?
Post by: lijue@berkeley.edu on November 12, 2017, 10:03:21 pm
Thank you Daniel. I need to think about your reply and how to work with these students. Happily, everyone else is seeing good progress....
I do have the ELC information but have not implemented any of it yet. I think I had better get to it!
Sue
Title: Re: VERY tight students?
Post by: Daniel Tkach on November 14, 2017, 10:30:19 am
Trigger point release, massage with stiff balls, plus the good old contract-relax technique, done in Zaichik stretching positions and movements, that's the most powerful thing you can get.
If this doesn't work, those guys are not human.